
TJ Norris (TJN): Hilary, how are you today?
Hilary Pfeifer (HP): Pretty good. The sun is out!
TJN: It hasn’t reached upper NE yet. But soon… So, I’d like to dive right in so we can talk about your show Natural Selection
HP: Great.
TJN: You are on view during the months of September and October, correct?
HP: Yes–there are a few more weeks left for this show at Ogle, and then it’s traveling down to San Francisco to show again in January.
TJN: That’s fantastic. A travelling solo show out of Portland! I wish there was more of that. So you’re just past the midpoint, how has the response been?
HP: I got a lot of early press, which was nice, and some sales, but I had both the Portland art market and the economy in general working against me. I have some ideas about continuing the show beyond San Francisco as well, but nothing set in stone.

TJN: Ogle is on NW Broadway on the side of the Everett Station Lofts. Where in San Francisco will you be showing?
HP: In San Francisco, I show at Velvet da Vinci Gallery and they are taking it next. I’ve been with them for 9 years. They are fantastic. I always try to find another place to show my installations since they take so much work to get together. Usually I do it across the country, but this time I am happy to bring it to a community who is already receptive to this work, both financially and thematically.
TJN: Care to expound on the ‘one step beyond’…?
HP: Well…..I really fell in love with working with the greenhouse as my canvas on this project and I just don’t quite feel like those explorations are done. I have always wanted to create an art installation for places like: a botanical garden, a natural history museum or a children’s museum–and I feel like it’s time to start moving on that dream–so I’m thinking about ways to work with the content, flesh out the educational aspects and make some proposals. I am really interested in non-traditional venues and audiences for art at the moment, and love the idea of art as a teaching tool too.
TJN: I really appreciate the idea that a solo show can be a work-in-progress and with the motifs you have built into this work, well, isn’t it fitting to grow it as you go so to speak?
HP: Yes. My projects always seem to build and grow off the previous ones.

TJN: Tell me briefly about that transition from your last project to this one?
HP: The very last project I did was ‘sWarm’, a site specific installation for the Fuller Museum in Massachusetts, which I showed later at the Museum of Contemporary Craft last year. (And tomorrow I’ll install a small portion of it again at Relish in the Pearl District!) The Fuller offered me a 40×18 flat wall which led me to thinking about how to “fill” the space, and I decided to research swarms for inspiration. That led me to create a story based in fact but evolving off into an imaginary scenario of love and courtship. Natural Selection also centers around themes of love, courtship, sexuality and intimacy, although I wanted to also design the structure it was shown on/within rather than relying on existing architecture as I usually do. I actually had the idea for Natural Selection about five years ago, but I had the other commitment with the Fuller first, plus I knew that I needed to raise funds to do N.S. the right way.
TJN: Says something about bio/species….about morphing perhaps? Let’s talk about the title of the show first, ‘Natural Selection’. Is this some sort of double entendre for flora, fauna and homosapiens and how the entirety of our mating process has a filter not unlike osmosis?
HP: Natural Selection is taken right from Darwin, obviously, but I kept coming back to it as a title for the show because I was interested in the use of “natural” as an adjective. I intend to ask the question “what is natural?” and hallenging people’s notions of what that word means. I did some reading on Charles Darwin’s theories, as well as his grandfather Erasmus Darwin, who was actually the one who planted the seed in his grandson’s head about evolution. Charles was the one who proved the theories that his grandfather suspected. Around the same time I was reading about Darwin’s theories about natural selection in plants, I saw an article in the New York Times about a Stanford biologist named Joan Roughgarden, whose studies find that the sexual selection portions of Darwin’s findings don’t take into account the abundant examples in the animal kingdom of same-sex partners rearing their young. It got me thinking about how it would be fun to give plants the power to choose their mates the way humans can rather than strictly asexually.
TJN: Nature does have this larger effect on humanity. I see the greenhouse you had fabricated for this presentation as a metaphor for chaos container - or perhaps it works like a shield from man-made corruption to the ecosphere? Am I far off the mark?
HP: No–that’s great. I also love the connotation to the old proverb: “People who live in glass houses shouldnt throw stones.” And “greenhouse effect” as another reference.
TJN: As such, the presentation is a fabrication of wildlife. Seems like a true oxymoron, no?
HP: It’s true–I often think of it as a self-portrait of the irony of my life. I grew up hiking in the Cascade Mountains with my family a lot, went to a very rural high school, was an avid gardener in my 20’s. It’s not that I don’t go out in nature as an adult, but it does seem a little funny that I’m quite content now to spend more time indoors making fake nature than out in the real thing.

TJN: Can you talk about the balance of nature you’ve hand-crafted? There exists this fear, however general or suspect, that with development and urban domination, we are losing what’s real, which makes your installation more cutting, as if we are surrounded by the endangered unknown. Can you talk about the imaginary, the make believe here?
HP: I basically see my voice as an artist as one who steps way back, looking at the ways that humans try to control nature and how nature always finds a way to make its way back in–but I like to use humor as a vehicle rather than melancholy or fear, as if it’s a commedia del arte tableau. I love dark humor a well as silly playful things, and strive to find a place in my artwork that is both familiar and curious. Disgusting yet tempting. (Maybe it’s the hedonist in me…..)
TJN: Well, I must say your tight treatment to the space is unlike past exhibitions at Ogle. Any final thoughts?
HP: One thing I tend to do on a regular basis is work with large quantities of objects, which definitely can bring in that feeling of the endangered unknown as you mention, but I hope that it also puts humans in their place a bit. It seems so ridiculous when the right wing establishment thinks we can drill our way out of an energy crisis and that global warming is just a natural cycle rather than human caused. At what point will we realize that you “can’t fool with mother nature?” (Remember those ads from the 70’s? What was that for, margarine?)
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NATURAL SELECTION
On view through November 1 at Ogle (310 NW Broadway)